Even if he is expensive to keep healthy. Help? Reading through all these comments. Having said all this, if you do find a white Doberman rescue dog or a white Doberman from a breeder with a good reputation, who does health testing, please give them a chance. Mom kept telling her she didnt like her. When you purchase puppies the price is based on quality of desired traits. Shelter dogs are not for everyone. Can you tell me how your girl is doing and maybe send some pics? I love the whites and blues they are great, KJ Hi, I dont know if you ever got an answerAs to where you could find a good, responsible, conscientious breeder, who may have White Doberman Puppies. The good news is we have an article and some pictures about what you're looking for. I am a dark skinned person i hve stomach problems, light sensitivity, and sometimes i dont behave like i should.should i be assisted with death because of it? all reputable sources of info on the white, INCLUDING THE AKC, say the same thing highly prone to genetic defects. When we walk in our little town, shes a rock star. They have no body weight to bring down a fighting man, nor do they have the rihht tempermant and courage to do so . Im getting the Blue and red ones. How is Duke? They each had the same personality characteristics, that we all hold in such high regards as their acceptable colored cousins. And just because your white dobie may not have any problems, that doesnt mean that his or her pups wont have any problems. Ive had German lineage Black and Rust Dobes (larger more stout and a bit calmer), American bred Black and Tan and my favorite an American Red (brown and rust). My uncle had a albino doberman for 15 years and was the best dog ever. Anyone who truly cares about the breed should not want to shut down discussions of genetic facts as proven by science not emotion. I use to breed Dobermans. I love him to pieces. Are you kidding? NO DOG should be put outside like lawn furniture, but a Dobeman willl make your life hell if you think you can do that. Saint is very intelligent, has a great thick coat, and has absolutely no hearing problems. Yup, did not think it wise to have a pup, but then life happens. I would never dream of having any other breed they are fantastic. Now everyone take a moment and lets think about how long dobs have been around ? WHY are people so concerned with LOOKS and COLOR, there are already many different colors of dobies and if you breed white ones or want white ones YOU ARE A DISGRACE. No tail cutting should be done after and only by vet. She is a hand full and always wants too be by your side! I have 2 dobes, black and red, and Isabella. He has been checked over by a vet several times and has no vision or health problems. Your comment is awaiting moderation. I take hm almost everywhere that I can and receive compliments on his look and temperament too. they are all incredible dogs just be responsible. Joanne, I rescued a White Dobie about a year and a half ago and in December had a tumor removed from his eyelid and a few from his lip that were cancer. They also may be more aggressive and therefore, give the breed a bad reputation. Due to this, white Dobermans experience many issues that their normal colored siblings wouldnt, including extremely UV sensitive skin, early on set glaucoma, lapsed patellas, aggression, and more. Also though they do not use Wiemaraners for PPD dogs typically. Do you know which Doberman colors are recognized or restricted by kennel clubs? Get yourself another color. It doesnt get much better than that!!! Some albino animals do have red or pink eyes because of the lack of pigmentation, what you are seeing the the blood behind their eyes. Exercise responsibility instead. Good luck! I also understand that just because they are here doesnt mean you should TRY to breed them. Very few Dobes carry the recessive white, and fewer carry the gene close enough to override and produce. My first ones never had a health issue up till the day they passed peacefully in there sleep. Hate to tell you though, they are just that FACTS. This matter was also of large debate with the German shepherd, which was later accepted. Otherwise it is a very serious amputation surgery after that time. thanks. There is way to much overbreeding of ANY breed so dont single out the white Doberman and make shit up because you were either brain washed or breed and cant sell one of your perfect colored dobermans because someone may purchase a white over yours. To each his own on color, if it floats your boat and you love that guy or gal go for it. Truly man & women best friend. But I cannot feel anything other than grateful, because I feel as though we have rescued her. While they do typically have high intelligence, friendly disposition, and minimal health issues, the opposite is also fairly common. All Dobermans can be gentle with kids if raised the correct way. As far as food for upset stomachs, usually vets recommend something like plain rice and chicken. If you have ever seen a picture of Shebah you will see she was not totally white. Once from the killer STAPH I got in the hospital during an appendix event. I feel the combination is a great for the medical condition in which I am going to be using my dog for when I get it. English bulldog. thankyou Anthony, we need to do whats best for the breed in the long term and Im pretty sure Mr. Louis Dobermann did not want the white dobermans entering the lineage. Are you still looking for a rescue? So see miller to make my point your message was not only informationless to me and everyone else, it was also showing how much of a dog lover you are not,If you were you would be giving information on the health issues and such like everyone else. Id kept him used to kids by taking him back to my friends I got him from. I hope theyve found him a good home by now. Now some breeders have been trying to fix the problem by crossing the white with fawn to keep the light color but extend the gen pool, this is helping the problem a lot. Theyre doing no harm though. Spell checked by my mutt and pure bred who ran it by the goldfish. your inbred dog still has unethical genetics. Our Doberman was the Black/Tan type. I have to disagree about additional health problems with the white/cream. You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isnt a terrible act. Second its not fair to the unknowing animal lover out there who ends up with said unhealthy animal. Never give anyone or any animal a second chance. Ive done my best to help but havent had much luck. He got us to do what he wanted without our even realising it. Please contact me with information on this matter. I've seen pictures of other coated Dobes, but none had tht much hair. Cleo would take smaller steps and have her eye on Becky constantly. People can do what ever they want as far as getting a dog. Isnt that enough ?. Ok, Not every one can own a Doberman , as we know dogs run in packs and there is always a leader of the pack , so you have to be the leader of your pack. I recommend anyone buying a White Doberman to search for AKC registered dogs. Thank you for reading our story. Very important. People like you need to be shot. Whites live longer and have less health issues because breeders have to breed them for health and think about what they are doing. Then of course laying a good foundation of basic obedience is essential, thats fine if someone else teaches the basics but when the pup comes home to you it needs to feel confidence and trust that youre the alpha leader now. Over the last 15 yrs it has become common to see oversize dobes (height as well as weight). Steve H. Your Cleo sounds like our Athana who was an exceptional dog. Christine your unhinged rabid defensive response suggests you likely own a white dobie and feel hurt by those facts presented. Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. Females spayed at 12 months or younger, and both genders neutered or spayed at over 12 months had significantly increased odds of developing hemangiosarcoma, compared with intact dogs. You have the attitude of a twelve year old girl, though I would like to think you are older. Hi! There is currently a female Doberman about 4-5 years old looking for a home near Erie PA Im sure there was some possibility that he was mixed, but he didnt look it. Well said sir. Fantastic dogs. So beautifully rare. She is beautiful and such a wonderful loving dog! The youngest was 13 . They have so many health issues. and vet bill are just that vet bill make a payment arrangment or start paying the vet before yu get the dobie and have a credit before the health issues arrise or pet health insurance. Other than its color points, which immediately identify this dog as a Doberman, (or a branch of the ancient Rottweiler) the differences are so dramatic that it may need to be classified as a new breed. Excellent post for a youngster, see my reply to the post below to see why you are right. Dogs of both genders neutered or spayed at 6 months or younger had significantly increased odds of developing a behavioral disorder, including separation anxiety, noise phobia, timidity, excitability, submissive urination, aggression, hyperactivity, and/or fear biting. My second oldest Cream/white is going on 11. My red/rust has a bladder issue and is on daily Proin. plus i have always wanted a bigger dog that i could run around and play with in the back yard. If you dont understand what Im talking about, reasearch the original european bulldogs. They are beautiful amazing dogs!! So, yes, hes required a bunch of extra care. Lol Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. . Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. Sometimes red Dobermans are called chocolate Dobermans. Oh, wait ~ It must be your words put together in a sentence that are just stupid. i have a white doverman and he is very loving hes six years old no health problem until last week he started falling like his front claws wants to turn in while he walks has anyone every had this proble please let meknow? Sickly dogs produce sickly pups, I wonder why its supposed to be ok to breed a unhealthy black and tan doberman but not a healthy white one? Hello Sharon, we finally had our appointment with a cardiac veterinarian. If you ask me its people who are ignorant and stupid . She loves to swim in our pool,the lake,ocean, whatever.Black and Tan have always been what most people think aboutbut, reds,fawns,blues etchave made there way into common breedingwhy not whites? Doctors say it is very possible that nothing has spread and the treatment really isnt going to add that much time for the cost and has no real guarantee. only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. So Isabella color and the variations- it is totally normal considering this ))))). Black people have higher rates of high blood pressure and are more likely than whites to have vitamin D shortages in northern hemispheres because their skin is so dark that they dont manufacture enough of it in northern countries. Best dog I ever had. Hi Sam, would love to hear more from you about this .. Katie at that point was 5 years old. the cause is called interbreeding. Darwins theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to its different-ness, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Additional advice to the owners. Inbreeding definitely can introduce unwanted traits, as well as perpetuate themBUT..Line-breeding (aka Inbreeding), when done by a conscientious professional, can strenthen a breed. or a sheppherd dog or a wiener? I didnt buy a white Dobe but I did just adopt one when our local shelter had to be evacuated and she needed somewhere to go for a few days and I just couldnt bring her back. Why should we try to start a new color to a breed we ALREADY have, and make the white dobies we have now suffer with genetic/health problems so that MAYBE one day the white dobie gene pool will be dilluted enough so that they only have the same health problems as the other colored dobermans? Also there are some white champions in schutzhund as well as obedience and agility course do your research like i said, Ok to all the white haters DO YOUR RESEARCH! And if you sincerely care about shelter dogs, I also recommend you stop whining on the internet and start pushing your congressman for tougher laws punishing animal abusers and tighter regulation of pet ownership and breeding. It disgusts me deeply. I so miss her, no pup will ever replace her in my heart. The breeding of the albino Doberman is disgusting and anyone who supports this interbreeding is also disgusting! Neutered and spayed dogs had five times higher incidence of other types of cancer, regardless of age of neutering. Very nice info on our most favorite dog dobermansss thanks we are the dog lovers from the midddle east. Hope you will sell me your dog. most shelter animals make wonderful pets. Her first visit to the vet we were told she has allergies, she had a double ear infection and two types of worms. I have a white female Doberman and she is the best dog in the world she is good with my kids and has no health problems at all shes fun and loving and gets along with any dog she even loves the cat next door and her best friend is a one year old pit named Chico I love all Dobermans they are the best dogs and loyal to there most inner core. I am getting ready to buy the only black and rust puppy from an all white litter. Okay , all of a sudden white/partial albino have popped up and Oh My God it must be a new line of dobs? Not all white dobermans will have skin issues, and other health issues. Im assuming the person who wrote this article never needs sunglasses! What I find truly aweful about this entire string of comments to dates back to July of 2008 is the fact that there is so much venom and passion about the z factor dobies but its all a senseless argument. You are not helping, you are hurting, period. And the blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman or silver Doberman. See more ideas about rian dawson, all about time, all time low. More often than not, this is usually because circumstances the owner thinks may have caused such reaction. as a vet i have seen so many of you love dont love white dobe but the thing is its not about the health or about the color or where it came from what matter is how you love your pets if you define them differently then you define your pets as pest not with love. The temperament for these dogs are great. I am honored to read your story. The writer does not anything about white doberman. ?Too much puppy for us (as we well knew when we decided on her), but we are all learning to adapt. My advice is to start with a doberman that has excellent genetics/temperament. If the breeder wants to limit the White, just do add a no breed clause to a buyer contract and have the buyer sign,but dont dispose of that puppy, Im sure theres a great home out there for him or her. How you can psychologically mix dog breeding with human color and racism is not just astounding and blithering in its ignorance, it is also alarming. I grew up with black and reds, and I would like to get another Black and a white. Special consideration should be taken that the Dobermans nails are kept short so that their feet remain healthy and cat like when standing. She excepted my wife at 2 years old, my children when they came along when she was six with my daughters and eight for my son. But anyways, throughout his 14yrs I learned alot about genetics in Dobermans. PS, I dont own a white Dobe but rather a Cockerpoo! I know of 1 black and tan female that needs a home. This works really well for their skin. I have a fawn doverman she turned three months yesterday her name is clare. Im not for one second saying theyre not great dogs and Im sure you love them. wowi totally agree with flower. If you are uninformed pls get informed before speaking on the subject. To the guy that said the bull mastiff came about by interbreeding other bull mastiffs you are an idiot. Pure breeding REQUIRES inbreeding. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a get-out-of-jail-free card in the future. An animal can have albino skin & hair, but still have normal eye color; this is called partial albinism. Again you may get lucky and have no issues with your dob now but the percent is huge on these to have extreme health issues. I have seen black people and babies with rickets (legs bend). Against all wisdom we have a puppy at hand. These are truly beautiful dogs.. Her mother Aries-color-Black/Rust. Look in before you look oot an age-old Scottish expression. Brace yerselves for it ALMOST ALL PUREBRED DOGS ARE THE PRODUCT OF INBREEDING! Thats the main goal of AKC, UKC, CKC and any other kennel clubs. People who are disruptive and have bad temperaments should be euthanized too. So.should people breed Doberman Pinschers for the specific purpose of producing Whites? Personally I work long shifts and what works for me is that I have two dobes to keep each other company. Dobermans are medium-large sized with a noble appearance and sleek looks, being extremely intelligent and energetic. It isnt expensive (~ $25 for puppy, young and adult and ~ $50 for seniors per month ). Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears. How fawns and the albinos are getting so popular idk because they are the ones with all the health problems. Article literally just said breeding white ones is inhumane. Devastated, hurting, searching to find yet another Dobie for us. Get them a fun winter dog sweater if you can. He loves everyone, and everyone who meets him falls in love. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a get-out-of-jail-free card in the future. Comic . I totally agree. Youll see for yourself the conclusion and stance that the Doberman community has taken on this. Having said that, his eye sight is not perfect. The male dog is very intelligent, very loving and affectionate, and riddled with unfixable health problems. She even feeds her dogs food she makes herself, it looks yummy! I have seen him go up to a child that was fussy and nuzzle them to make them happy (with the parents permission). It does that to almost everybody. If they are healthy, they are an attractive byproducts of the current standard. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. Good morning. Keep in mind, we are arguing over a DOG. Dont know how, but here I am. And the blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman or silver Doberman. the color is just one, if very obvious, sign that there is something wrong. I am not intowhite vs. albino thing but i had a blue with skinproblems bt he was my dog. Sure, some may be loving, intelligent, and even have no health problems; however, the majority of them do. White dobermans can be sickly or healthy as can ANY other dog. Ill never forget them. i think that we should do what is best for the breed . Dobermans have a specific temperament that was bred to protect their owners they are also very well tempered around children and people. I own a blue doberman. So do I . What about the thyroid condition that Dobes get? The white dobie has long since outgrown the initial inbreeding through which the breed was developed,as the Bullmastiff once did. However, there are cases in which the eyes of an albinistic animal appear red or purple, depending on the amount of pigment present. I like any dog without its ears cut off. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies , You are unselfish. I am 66 years old, and am on my 5th DobermanPerhaps my last and it is unthinkable for me not to not have one. I went to the store and bought an at home UTI kit and tested her myself, I called the vet and after urine analysis it was confirmed. She used a Shaklee product called Basic H diluted in water. But it did the trick. To Marcela Rodriguez; a friend had a blue dobie with skin issues you are experiencing. I am certainly responsible with dogs and have a lot of experience around them, I was raised with them. my first dobe was white, I rescued him, he was def, and blind in one eye, as well he was a fear biter, he passed at only 3 years of age due to cancer some people get lucky with health issues I was informed of problems and gave home the best home I could. I am an animal activist, but I still think its okay to cut their ears as long as it is done correctly and under anesthesia with great care taken to keep the dog out of pain and tending to the healing correctly. Other than that and some skin issues (common) she is beautiful and healthy. We are experienced Doberman owners. I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible. They are worth because of the love they give not because of how many contests they can win. We are to blame for not doing research prior to getting her. Thanks so much! Congrats. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a get-out-of-jail-free card in the future. Im currently in contact with a man in West Virginia who listed his 5 year old dobe on Craigslist for free.. Any of my sickly pooches see the vet often and my healthy ones visit the vet twice a year for check ups and boosters. Choose what works for YOU. I cant take him anywhere without people asking if hes a show dog. Now my family is waiting for our new 3 months blue doberman. Although Im sure your dobie is beautiful, white and has a wonderful disposition, thats not the point. Although she is such a beauty and she has no health problems I will not be breeding her. PLEASE do research before you try to spout nonsense. He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. In the meanwhile we have adopted a 7 months old dobie girl. But it is not good for the breeds future to perpetuate this mutation. To avoid serious shock for your pocket take the pet insurance. Most people know the Doberman as a black dog with brown markings. I have taken in many dogs that were not purebred and wonderful animals. The environment is everything. Right, exactly what we did not want, a puppy. I agree. Or put you down its just so people get a real clue and stop putting money into bad breeding. A lot of people dont realize, a certain amount of in-breeding is done all the time, with every breed of dog (or cat, horse, cow, etc) when producing and bettering a specified BREED. Dilutes are a financial commitment that some people just dont realize, and thats why you see so many on Craigslist and rescue groups. For all those saying AKC registers albino dobermans, the AKC also register puppy mill dogs, does that make it an acceptable practice? The word Inbreeding is thrown around as if it was a curse word. Also we treat infections with MESOSILVER. Puts up with everything my kids do to him, he is protective, big and strong, and gives our family unconditional love. Also they are small puney and frail in body type and just couldnt prefrom protection duties very well because ther bodies arnt built for the extreme exersizes and longevity of the protection sports or work that military or police use, there ligiments and muscle tissue and joints wouldnt hold up.. Don't forget to save . In the last year I registered him as ESA, that way I never had to deal with apartments telling me they wont renew my lease bc they believe my dog is a Doberman. He was rescued, so his ancestry was unknown. I am looking at an Isabella (Fawn). 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